Posts by cha ching

my mom told me that she, my brother and his wife really didn't like this new bible.. when i asked her why, she said they dropped the headings on the top of the pages and that just wasn't as good.. have you heard any pros and cons about the new good book?.

cha ching

My sister, an artist... and never baptized, but raised a witness, now a non-believer, says it is 'depressing.'

When I asked why, she said that the color is depressing, and the feel of the skin of the bible reminds her of human skin, and of when the Nazi's use to use human skin for lamp shades, etc.......

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Jehovah's Witness Tragedy - a series of installments.

by Julia Orwell in

i'm working on a short story/novella about a jw family.

it's called the opal ring.

i will be posting it in installments, and would like some feedback on it.

cha ching

I have enjoyed this story also, Julia! (& just now found it! YAY!)

What is so interesting to me, is to see that all of us can relate to it... It is the same old story, over and over again... now exposed. You are in Austrailia? Lois is on the West Coast, Kate is in England? We all relate, we have all had it happen, seen it, all over the world, it is not an 'isolated' view, as so many would like to say.

Every sentence is like living thru it again.... When I personally asked, "Why did Jehovah "lead the slave" to say "Sodom and Gomorrah won't be resurrected," then "They will be", then "They won't"..... and made the comment, "Is that the light getting brighter, or the light going off and on, off and on?"

Let alone the 607 WT, when my husband and I figured out that all the Society's calculations were inventions and delusions of men, what was asked of me?!!??? the same thing asked in your novel: "What have you been reading?!?" me: "The WT & AW" that's it, WT & AW, and that , 'my dear friends' (haha) is enough to prove them wrong........

Love your story! It has epitomized the reality of life inside the borg. Very interesting. I love to write, and w/also like to write a story. Just try to explain what it is like to an 'outsider,' it is hard to sum it all up in such a short space, good job!!

I will be patiently looking forward to the next chapter.

thx, cha ching!

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What would this world be like today , if their was never , ever , any concept of a GOD or a Creator .?

by smiddy in

given the fact that religion has been such a divisive force throughout history amongst all nations and tribes of the earth , i wonder how things might have been different had their been no god / creator / religion in the mix.. of course religion alone has not been the cause of all mankinds troubles & conflicts with each other , nationalism , polotics , racism , to name a few are also guilty of these problems.. but it seems to me that religion , beleif in a creator / god and its consequences of such a beleif are the cheif causes of mankinds troubles.. remember this is your thoughts if a creator , god , religion didnt exist in human conscience .. what are your thoughts ?.

smiddy.

cha ching

Dear Smid,

I was wondering the same thing myself, just the other day....

'Religion,' has been used as a means to control people.... to 'make one person more special than another.' Want to have a reason to get rid of your 'enemies'? etc....

I believe, that if all people were just curious, and like children, good hearted, wanting to learn, the world would have been a lot more gregarious, scientifically advanced.....

If there were no 'god', perhaps there would be other things.... like 'bosses,' 'kings,' 'heads of tribes,' 'generals of armies,' 'CEO's,' 'klans of families,' that would still demand loyalty, obedience. Perhaps men make themselves like gods, perhaps it would be the same?

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My Child Has Asked Me to Divorce Husband

by HeyThere in

i guess i am just venting.

its a mess.

i just dont even know where to start with this crap.

cha ching

Dear HeyThere,

So sorry for all of your turmoil... Wish I c/give you a hug... That kind of arguing can just tire you out.

I was reading what DOC said, about JW's who are inactive, leave, mess around and then feel guilty, come back and try to make atonement by becoming an active, repentant, meeting attending, service going, good appearing JW.

That really is not fair to the person who married them. Did he tell you that one day he might return, would expect you to study, become a JW, then treat you ill if you did not?

What would happen if you 'took a break', and went to live with relatives for a while, letting your head and body heal?.... give yourself a chance to think and breathe?

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ANOTHER poke in the eye of the balloon-god YodHeVahHe

by Nathan Natas in

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/evolution/first-metabolic-processes-detected-outside-of-cells/.

precis: a graduate student at the university of cambridge accidentally discovered the first evidence of metabolism occurring outside a cell.

to test the processes that could have helped spark life on earth, students in the earth sciences department who had been working on reconstructing the chemistry of the archean ocean, which covered the planet almost 4 billion years ago helped develop some experiments.

cha ching

I love the variety in life, the beauty, the harmony.....

I see design.... period. Absolute detail, awesome! unimaginable variety! breathtaking!

Accidents? hmmm.... usually end up in a mess.... clean it up.

Let's "draw" DNA, mitochondria, a living cell, the universe..... takes a bit of effort, and knowledge.

Personally, I see all the details, the beauty, the harmony as a sign of an inventor.

Who designed it? Don't know. Are they alive now? I don't have the answers.

How I live my life, the decisions I make, will not be based on whether there is or is not a God... or 'inventor'.

I will still love people, enjoy animals, try to live a creative life, and respect our home, planet earth.

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"No more money, not one red cent!"

by Separation of Powers in

once you recognize that the contributions you gave for the upkeep of your place of worship have been given to the corporation and will only be used to upkeep your place of worship at their discretion...the caption will become your mantra!.

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sop.

cha ching

If people's contributions are kept "private", then there is a possibility some may show their real feelings about the WT by not contributing...

This would be a great opportunity to 'vent', especially when you fear speaking out in the wake getting df'd.

Like I say, 'cha ching, cha ching! no more of MY bling!$'

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Listen, Obey and

by berrygerry in

i'm extremely neutral in our house, so it's not my influence - honest!.

my 11-year old is light-years advanced with his intelligence and humour.. he's going around the house singing "listen, obey, and be castrated.".

was not impressed.. pretty hard to contain my laughter..

cha ching

My favorite ending to the song:

"Listen, Obey or be DF'd"

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It is so obviously a lie......now

by snare&racket in

once the spell is broken, one you take a deep fresh breath outisde of the watchtower camp, the amazingly obvious realisation becomes clear.... of course this is a lie, of course this is ridiculous!

you find you have memories of really believing the claims and promises, but it seems like another life, another experience.

it seems so incredibly false once you leave and it is very difficult to belive you even once accepted it!

cha ching

Snare & R: your analogy of the gambling, addiction & "too much time invested to walk away" does "hit the WT nail on the head" (haha Lois ;-)

Done4Good: never thought of it that way, but I am sure it will help: both addicts (children born of addict mothers & adults who have become addicts) have the same need, you can't tell one from the other... both need the high... and from what I have seen, I do think a major life trajedy breaks up the unreality, the "drug" isn't working for them any more.... The "drug" just made things worse. "Hey, I don't want this, I don't need this, I wasn't really feeling that great after all.... and I paid a lot of time and money into it..... I am 'walking away from the slot machine, and leaving the hamster wheel.'"